@article{ringer-2024-proofs, title={Proofs and Conversations}, volume={71}, ISSN={0002-9920}, url={http://dx.doi.org/10.1090/noti3032}, DOI={10.1090/noti3032}, number={09}, journal={Notices of the American Mathematical Society}, publisher={American Mathematical Society (AMS)}, author={Ringer, Talia}, year={2024}, month=Oct }